WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Leonard Hatred 3:15 Fri Jul 2
East Germany
Talk to me

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Badhabit 12:55 Sun Jul 4
Re: East Germany
Watch the film "Goodbye Lenin" .... breaks the myth that Germans have no sense of humour.

Remember us playing Aufbau Magdeburg in ECWC in 66. We just got past them 1-0 and 1-1. I think the lads who got into East Germany for the second leg were followed around by the Stasi who thought there were 'Westies' among them trying to get in to visit Osties!

Alex G 6:48 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Also they have bars that you can sit at that drive through the streets whilst you're enjoying a beer!

Alex G 6:46 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
One of my favourite cities to visit - lots of history (good and bad) and some wonderful beer gardens if you get there during warm weather.

Think it's just about the only capital city in Europe where the average wage is less than that of the national average of the country it is in, meaning it is still extremely affordable.

riosleftsock 5:46 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
I remember reading somewhere ages ago (I'm sure I will be corrected on the numbers) that at one point, 1 in 3 East Germans was either a stasi informer or worked direct for them.

Hundreds of thousands, possibly millions were incarcerated without trial, imprisoned, tortured or denied human rights, many were executed.

After the wall came down, very few stasi were arrested, and I think only 1 was sent to prison and he was released shortly after. Its like it never happened.

Merkel was ex-Stas allegedly as were/are many in EU organisations

roltrader 5:34 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
It's quite similar to West Germany now. I hope that helps.

gph 2:45 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Unless they've changed in the last ten years, the German* symbol for workday on timetables is crossed hammers.

So, if a train only runs Monday-Friday, it gets this symbol.

*Alright to be exact, I've only noticed this in the Rhineland and Berlin

WHU(Exeter) 2:36 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
There's a few clubs that used to have crossed hammers on their crests that played top tier football across eastern Europe in the 50s, 60s who were never quite in the European cup competitions but were staples in their leagues.

a lot of them sunk down to 4th, 5th or worse tier football when the mining or iron investment was no longer in the town/club.

Have you seen Cockney Hammers site with all of the clubs from around the world with crossed hammers?....there are over a hundred different clubs easy I think, from Iceland, to Turkey to some club in Africa and even S.America.

Crassus 2:27 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Right they were way before my time, but Karl Marx Stadt I do remember
Reckon that the clue was in the name come to think - interesting interlude mate, thanks
Used to be totally fascinated with Sportsnight and the like when you got a glimpse of sides whose European results were published in the press a couple of days after, then a World Cup revealed some of these gems

WHU(Exeter) 2:07 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Right, got it...the club were Wismut Aue...they've got (had) a lovely creast that incorporated crossed hammers. They were a mining club that got really good and around 1954 they were forcibly moved by the government from Aue to Chemnitz (later called Karl Marx Stadt)

WHU(Exeter) 1:58 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
I'm going to have to go and get my 'notes' now....

give us 10 minutes

Crassus 1:50 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
EX

Without digging into Wiki, what about Locomotiv Leipzig?
Now Red Bull obviously

After those, at this hour the memory recall of Sportsnight is struggling

WHU(Exeter) 1:43 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Crassus, no it wasn't them....I'm going to have to look it up tomorrow, was sad what happened to their club/town.

(I've got a few of their badges, as used to collect the crossed hammers badges)

Crassus 1:39 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Zeb, that's the one, Jena
Industrial city, typically Soviet style if I recall correctly

zebthecat 1:20 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Jena

Crassus 1:06 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
EX'

Karl Zeiss Jana by chance?

May have spelt that wrong, but remember their name from Sportsnight on a European Wednesday night

zebthecat 12:59 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Sven Roeder 12:16 Sat Jul 3

This is common knowledge.
When I was a kid I remember Dad dragging us too the athletics at Crystal Palace and Marita Koch burning round a 400m was some sight.
Heike Drechsler actually got better once East and West has reunited.

chevy chase 12:33 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Matthias Sammer Stasi

Sven Roeder 12:16 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
As mentioned before the book Stasiland by Anna Funder & the film The Lives of Others are excellent.
The extent of people recruited by the Stasi to spy on each other was totally bonkers.

E German female sprinters ,swimmers & weightlifters were ludicrously drugged up.
Cant imagine any of the Olympic medals they won were genuine. Bit like the Chinese swimmers & American sprinters.

Sydney_Iron 12:09 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
"Female" Swimmers using urinals......

Billy Blagg 12:09 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
When I went to Berlin in 2005 I stood at the Brandenburg Gate and looked into what used to be East Germany and the first thing I saw was a McDonald's and a Starbucks. I thought 'Well THAT ideology didn't work did it?"

charleyfarley 12:04 Sat Jul 3
Re: East Germany
Checkpoint Charlie

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